Sanda vs Muay Thai: Liu Hailong vs Robert Kaenorrasing Part 1
yeah?
yeah?
Sanshou permits ...
Sanshou permits takedowns, knee, elbows etc. Which is in most sport martial arts forbidden.
Most people don't ...
Most people don't even know that Sanda was created when early 1900s chinese government did studies on world martial arts and concluded western boxing tactics were superior to all chinese martial art styles and blended the hand techniques of boxing with the leg and grappling techniques of kung fu. This is basically a thai fighter beating a thai fighter. Proves nothing except punching and kicking works! Go figure :/
How many ...
How many professional fighters are out there waiting to attack you? This is no different than the BJJ zombie myth everyone perpetuates. There are not millions of grapplers and millions of professional fighters waiting to attack you. But there are millions of civilians who do a lot of dumb shit to people. And there are a lot of instances where punching uncle tom in the mouth is not the best option. Or breaking his femur with a thai kick because you're "hard". Low level tactics have there place.
that one stupid old ...
that one stupid old video of two obviously old & not very good at all sifus doesnt prove all kung fu masters are shit? You dont think proper shaolin fighting monks spend their lives conditioning their bodies to rock hard, even their genitals ? & basically training all day every day or their life. Some of the tecniques behind the moves in forms are brutal if executed correctly. Speer strikes to eyes & throat, joint breaks, throat grabs etc They learn to fuk you up, not just KO or submit you
yes but it has ...
yes but it has nothing to do with the style it is the fighters that really count in a fight! if you think the styles are the most important thing than any sanda practioner with a little bit luck can beat any muay thai fighter?
how can you say ...
how can you say that? its a fight and onlt takes one punch to the head to end it. Any style can beat the other, i dont care what anyone says, there is an element of luck in any fight. You bob or weave the wrong way, or dont block, bob, weave or duck when your meant to and it can be all over. cmon dudes, quit the fanboy shit. They are all styles that when taught by a competant teacher and practised for years, any style can be dangerous and KO someone. JWP isnt a bad fighter and he got beat
man i cant ...
man i cant understand MT fanboys cant accept the evidence. Theres plenty if you google it. As an aussie I dig and follow JWP's career but he was beaten by a sanda fighter. No excuses, he lost.
cmon mate, you must ...
cmon mate, you must have a video of someone killing someone with a lethal strike.? i mean everyone films themself killing all the time dont they? I do, i thought everyone does?. (Sarcasm for the dummies) dont bother with these MT fan boys. They remind me of kids, my stles the best blah, blah, blah
yeah but i wanted ...
yeah but i wanted to see more striking. especially with a muay thai guy there.
Sanda is strikes + ...
Sanda is strikes + Shua Jiao(Judo came from Shua Jiao)
that was lame. if i ...
that was lame. if i wanted to see takedowns, i would have watched a judo match
well see over the ...
well see over the next few years
I'd say Zhang ...
I'd say Zhang Kaiyin and a few other guys have a very good chance at beating Buakaw. Wang Hong Xiang also broke Joe Schillings leg. I'd say there are plenty of sanda fighters who would give the top guys a tough match.
JWP defeated Yod, ...
JWP defeated Yod, Cosmo, Nonsai and many other good fighters. Also he had 2 close fights with Buakaw. I'd say Zhang Kaiyin is legit and is deserves to fight the best and more recognition. The government controls the fighters because they are a source of revenue for them, also the fighters do not leave because they are guaranteed a source of income fighting for the gov't and some are afraid to leave.
they are good, but ...
they are good, but it's known that the gov controls the shit out of fighters. call me crazy but I never liked john waynes style he isn't consistent.
Zhang Kaiyin ...
Zhang Kaiyin already defeated JWP with strikes alone. I'd say there are plenty of high leveled Chinese fighters but a lack of managers willing to help them get exposure internationally.
i really like cung ...
i really like cung le ever since he broke shamrocks arm with a body kick. still had a feeling he would lose to vanderlei, wish he went for the takedown.
dude chill out and ...
dude chill out and look up cung le
...thumbs up dude! ...
...thumbs up dude!!!...
Human Weapon [HQ] - ...
Human Weapon [HQ] - Karate part 4/5, shows you some traditional karate techniques that would be illegal in MMA, Check out the first three moves from 1:45 onwards. Some good parts later with groin strikes, etc. That's the kind of traditional stuff I was talking about. Interestingly, special forces from around the world are trained in similarly illegal (in MMA) moves.
Sanda is a sub ...
Sanda is a sub division of Kung fu and Muay Thai came from Kung Fu hence their connection with Buddhism. But yes Sanda is technically a watered down version of MT but Sanda did not come from Muay Thai. Also Sanda has wrestling that is almost absent in MT.
Is that because ...
Is that because it's a dictatorship and the all mighty central gov tells their citizens who to fight, where, and when? This guy is trying to tell me that Muay thai is some watered down version of sanda. If anything sanda is watered down. Would you agree it will be atleast a few more years before you see Chinese competing with Thais at high level kick boxing?
Uh I'm not about to ...
Uh I'm not about to post on the fucking internet where I teach but yea I do. And again this video pretty much shows how moronic your argument is and proves you wrong. Under MT rules the Sanda fighter would be able to use elbows and knees... ANY advantage the MT might remotely have is gone. So no, we don't agree, because you're flat our wrong. Again, you must be American because you're a complete idiot.
Yeah, you are right ...
Yeah, you are right, I was in the middle of another reply before I saw your comment ^^ Never mind...