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I guess, you sound ...

I guess, you sound more educated about Politics than me so I'm just going to stop here XD

What are you even ...

What are you even talking about? I'm talking about the fact that there should not be such a thing as 'you' in "if you build on people, you build on mud", because people should choose to build on whatever they want and deem reasonable themselves. That's how you achieve cultural and traditional evolution - not through force, coercion and narrow minded after market produced traditions made to fit everyone's being.

people build on ...

people build on people? no wonder we are still in the bronze age.

Pure communism ...

Pure communism entails a leaderless and stateless society, much akin to syndicalism. That depends on your conception of freedom, and if you are basing your opinion of freedom under communism on Soviet Union, China etc. these states were never communist, merely state capitalist/Maoist/Stalinist/fascistic dictatorships.

Fuck yeah!

Fuck yeah!

Yeah, because the ...

Yeah, because the profit motive tends to ignore and omit humanity! Fuck yeah! Our only motive is for profits, fuck yeah! Fuck yeah, I assume that the only thing worthy in my job is productivity! Produce more!

Of course human ...

Of course human capital needs to be adjusted to demand, but that is a continuous process. The first ones hired to fill those new spots will naturally be under employed, but they will learn and evolve at the work place and eventually be integrated. Also, if a guy sweeping the factory floor is sacked, he can still sweep the floor of the new factory down the road no matter if one builds computer softwares and the other builds electric turbines. Human capital is usually very fungible.

I wanted to a) ...

I wanted to a) separate the perception of 'greed' from plain and simple will to make ones, and other people's situation better, and b) the idea that communism doesn't 'sound nice' because it's not really altruism, as much as it is force and coercion. Altruism is a human trait, not an institutional trait. I agree with you - there can never be a perfect form of government, but capitalism is not a form of government - it's unmitigated human action. Maybe anarcho-capitalism would be perfect?

Communism is ...

Communism is impossible to do right, because A) it's destined to corrupt the leaders and B) it has no price mechanism. Also, there's no profit motive and no freedom so it's no way to live.

'You' don't build ...

'You' don't build on people. People build themselves.

Getting more stuff ...

Getting more stuff and employing more people are 2 different things. Plus human capital is not as modular as machinery or equipment. Humans have certain skills, attributes and desires. You can't send 10 German mechanics to teach music in China just because you have a surplus of mechanics in Germany and a shortage of music teachers in China. In theory it makes sense but in practice human capital is not as elastic as equipment. You can do that with materials and machines but not with humans.

That video doesn't ...

That video doesn't so much argue against the profit motive so much as argue against conceiving of the profit that motivates being in purely financial terms. An it's point that people and companies are much more productive when free to pursue what they find interesting sounds quite a lot like an argument for deregulation and economic and personal freedom, in the style of Milton Friedman, just about the most ardent capitalist you could ever find.

You seem like a ...

You seem like a nice guy. But I honeslty don't know what your argument here is. What I mean is we will never find a perfect form of goverment. But the best we have is Capitalism. I thought Communism sounded like a great idea when I was educated about it. The problem is, it doens't work well in reality.

The profit motive ...

The profit motive only works for mundane and repetitious tasks that do not appeal to human being's true intellectual potential. The theory that material success is the driver of human action is a myth. Yet it has been propagated throughout the decades cus those who prosper from a capitalist society- the elite -will make sure that this sort of ideology and its theories stand as true through their media and politicians, or else they will lose their power Science begs to differ: watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

yeah but you are ...

yeah but you are just a CUNT.

i really don't ...

i really don't think that this is the whole history of comunism, i mean, It's hard to imagine that the USSR became the most powerful nation in the world (or closely to the US) using a broken economic and political system. Just my opinion

if you build on ...

if you build on people, you build on mud. REPEAT THIS MANTRA FIVE HUNDRED TIMES EVERY DAY.

I find Khan's ...

I find Khan's history teaching too opinionated

So not only would ...

So not only would they need government employees to collect all of this information from all of the means of production in the nation, but they would also need to do it on a continuous basis whenever demand goes down. In USSR they managed to collect this information and renew it 5 years at a time, whereas in a free market you get new items in the stores every day. It is simply impossible to make communism work better than capitalism due to all of the bureaucracy.

Though there's a ...

Though there's a problem with that too (besides the fact that it's immoral). For the government to accumilate enough knowledge about where these resources is needed, it would have to be completely omniscient. It would have to know what and how much material is used for every little thing that is produced in the entire country, as businesses themselves can't possibly trade independently without a price mechanism.

But in the ...

But in the construction business there would be a lot of money, attracting more people into that business. Though in a communist state where everyone is paid equally, people can basically work with whatever and be really bad at what they do, but still get paid as prices and wages are not interconnected. This means that the communist state will have to force people into the labor market where they are needed.

Under a communist ...

Under a communist system everyone is paid equally independent of the utility the market derives from the labor. For instance, even though the demand of, say, swords is very low and the demand of buildings is very high, the sword forger and the construction worker has to be paid equally, despite the fact that there is no capital in the sword business. On a free market there would be less money in the sword forging business, making that path of career less attractive.

Communism is not ...

Communism is not anymore noble than capitalism as they both aim to increase productivity and prosperity. But communism would be impossible even if everyone were in on it and worked as hard as they could despite the lacking profit motive, because it does not involve a price mechanism.