Medieval II (Stainless Steel mod) Kievan Rus-Novgorod battle

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Not at all...

Not at all...

Russia came from ...

Russia came from the muscovites which originated from the mongols so mongolia is the actual motherland :P

king of Novgorod - ...

king of Novgorod - Rorik was varangian viking

but werent kievan ...

but werent kievan rus from novgorod?

no kievan rus is ...

no kievan rus is ukraine! republics of novorgorod and muscovy is the herritage of Russia.

Sorry, bro, i don` ...

Sorry, bro, i don`t understand you.. Mongols came much later

Where does the ...

Where does the part of mongols raping everyone fit in here?

i'm just starting ...

i'm just starting to look at Stainless Steel mod. where should i start downloading? 1.0? 2.0? 3.0? 4.0?

Ukrain + Russia = ...

Ukrain + Russia = my lovely "KIEVAN RUS´ "One belief, one history, one god, one people"

Actually, Kievan ...

Actually, Kievan Rus was conquered by Novgorod and it became center of Rus due to it strategic position and warm climate. At that moment territory of modern Russia was called Zaleskaya Ukraina (Forest Periphery). But when Kiev was conquered by Polish--Lithuanian Commonwealth it became Ukraina (Periphery).

life was good u say ...

life was good u say.....if it wasnt for the communists ukraine and other countries wouldnt be exploited and poor......

ukraine was part of ...

ukraine was part of russian but after the kievan rus era.........but then we got our freedom in the early 1990s and the word ukraine has been around alot longer then russian....

u mean rusyn then ...

u mean rusyn then yes as in rus but russian as in modern russia then ur a fuck\tard......

no u fucking retard ...

no u fucking retard. why do u think its called a "KIEVAN rus" dumbass

Ukraine became a ...

Ukraine became a country in the 20 century

Kieven Rus was ...

Kieven Rus was Russian!

Kievan Rus Rus is ...

Kievan Rus Rus is for Russian

@JarnsidaViking ...

@JarnsidaViking Miklagard is actually the name for Constantinople whenever Harald Hardardr and his men became mercenaries. From Constinoplies giant walls he called it ''The city of the Gods'' Miklagard.

lol@holywar idiots

lol@holywar idiots

Ukraine is a direct ...

Ukraine is a direct offshoot of the Kievan Rus, and the Kievan Rus branched Novgorod and Vladimir-Suzdal which became Russia. In a way, Ukraine is the actual Motherland.

bullshit 

bullshit 

There are many ...

There are many theories of the origin of Slavs, but none of them confirmed but it is history of Ukraine and we respect it

Prussiaaccount ...

Prussiaaccount The Rus are mentiones as Swedes in two sources: Nestors Chronicles and the Annales Bertiniani. All the Norse archeological finds in Russia have been from the Mälar valley in Uppland, Sweden, and according to Wulfstan II, Gotland had been a part of Sweden since 880 (before that it was independent) so even if the Rus Varyags came from Gotland they would still be Swedes. Not trying to put anyone down, but the archeological work, speaks for itself.

I had to learn this ...

I had to learn this in university. chronological simple version: Kievan Rus, coexistence with Novgorod, annexation of Kievan Rus by Novgorod, Rise of Moscow, defeat of Novgorod and finaly Moskovite empire